Malloy: Tighter Voter Registration Laws 'Un-American'

The governor's message at the Darien League of Women Voters luncheon on Tuesday was "in line with the general mission of the League of Women Voters," according to Darien First Selectman Jayme Stevenson.

With the election between President Obama and Republican candidate Mitt Romney so close in various parts of the U.S., Gov. Dannel Malloy said during a Darien League of Women Voters luncheon at Country Club of Darien Tuesday afternoon that new, tighter voter registration laws in some of those states may "tear [America's] political fabric asunder."

Malloy is referring to states, including Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Texas, which, since 2008, have implemented laws restricting the forms of identification that residents could present as proof that they're eligible to vote. While supporters of the laws said they were passed mainly to prevent voter fraud, Gov. Malloy and other Democrats believe the laws were passed to prevent certain groups, such as minorities, from voting in the upcoming election.

"What's happened in America is that on too many issues... we make really stupid short-term decisions for political purposes that have long-term implications that are very, very destructive," Malloy said.

The governor pointed out that the laws could be detrimental to urban communities where most residents use public transportation on a daily basis, thus making it unnecessary to obtain driver's licenses. He also questioned how college students in Texas aren't permitted to use state-issued IDs to register on their campuses, but residents are allowed to use their gun permits to register.

"Most of the 19 states and the two states that did it by executive order ...are safe one way or the other," Malloy said. "But there are a handful of states that will decide which [presidential] candidate wins—where this could very well have dramatic implications. Now, when you look at the 19 states plus the two states, you come to the conclusion that this is not about voter fraud, this is about voter denial."

Malloy stated that there is “almost no evidence of systemic voter fraud based on the identification of someone voting” and “less than four-tenths of one percent of voter fraud has been documented in any state over a long period of time.” He also provided statistics showing that between the 2004 and 2008 presidential elections, the number of African-American, Latino, and Asian-American voters as well as voters between the age of 18 and 24 increased and he praised groups, such as the League of Women Voters, for encouraging higher voter turnout.

"We actually did in that election—for numerous reasons and some of those political reasons—what this league in town after town and county after county and state after state has been advocating for the entirety of the existence of the League of Women Voters and that is that more people would find a way to participate," Malloy said.

Malloy also praised Connecticut for focusing on expanding voter registration laws and doing so on a bipartisan basis.

"We are flying exactly in the opposite direction of what any other state has done over the last year and we are going to do everything in our power in the coming years to make sure it's easier to vote," he said "[Our efforts] were made a little slower perhaps by some, and some of the changes will not go into effect because we didn't get a super majority, but we did get majorities with participation from Democrats and Republicans to do what we all have the fundamental right to do: and that's to vote."

Malloy posed a challenge to the League of Women Voters to crunch the numbers once the election results are in and compare how the new laws have affected voter turnout.

"I don't want to see my democracy, my country torn apart," he said. "This has got to be important to somebody. And that job is your job. Do the hard, good work of proving that this idea is un-American."

Michael Gianfranceschi September 25, 2012 at 11:22 PM
Ben, you are right a citizen does have the right to vote, but you have to be a citizen. How would you confirm that someone is a citizen? If they say they are is that good enough? please, it is not a hardship to get a photo ID my daughter doesn't drive but she votes beccause she takes the right to vote seriously and takes the responsibility upon herself to guarantee that right, should we ask less of others?
Rob Gianazza September 25, 2012 at 11:50 PM
Howard, I seldom consider you a credible source. You have your opinion, which you are entitled to. Do not deny other people their opinions. The progressive movement has not eradicated the Constitution yet.
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 12:51 AM
VOTER FRAUD THAT WOULD BE SOLVED BY PHOTO ID"S IS NOT A PROBLEM IN THE USA (I used caps for emphasis, since conservatives seem to need that in order to believe something as true.) The cost of an ID may not be expensive by itself. But you must take into all the other monetary/hardship costs that occur. All of this to solve a problem that doesn't exist. And bringing up ACORN is just another example of bringing up things that have been thoroughly debunked already (just Fox News, Rush, Beck and Newsmax) don't bother to stop repeating nonsense. One could argue that these laws are equivalent to a modern day poll tax.
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 12:56 AM
The historical voter fraud(s) referenced by Stevens is/are of a far different ilk than the practically non-existent fraud that photo ID's are purported to solve. This has been documented again and again in recent studies from the whole range of ideological spectrum. Plus voter ID's don't prevent extra-terrestrial beings from voting (their advanced technology can surely produce either their own ID's or make them look human enough that they were able to obtain state issued IDs.) Therefore I propose blood and DNA tests at every polling station!!!!! The potential for outerspace alien fraud is large without these measures put into place.
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:02 AM
Mr. Rob Gianazza does not get it. You can have your own opinion about things. But when your opinion runs counter to established facts and evidence, than your opinion is wrong and should be mocked. This is like he fallacy in modern journalism that gives equal time to opponents of accepted scientific information that makes an issue that is as close to established fact as possible seem like there is a 50/50 split (in the scientific community.) Despite how often incorrect info is repeated in the conservative echo chambers of foxnews, talk radio, and newsmax, it does not make it true
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:05 AM
States like Florida even illegally remove valid (likely Democratic) voters from the voting rolls!!! And it seems to occur when a GOP person is in charge as Secretary of State . . .
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:06 AM
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/blogs/national-affairs/florida-gop-takes-voter-supression-to-a-brazen-new-extreme-20120530 and don't dismiss just because it is in Rollingstone. It was just the first link provided. Plus Rollingstone is for baby boomers stuck in the 60's/70's so probably not that radical anymore.
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:09 AM
We used to not need a voter ID to board a plane. That is a result of increasing the powers of the security state/police state. You can easily buy booze if you are obviously older than 21 with out an ID. Same with movies.
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:10 AM
I agree. I say after someone votes, cut off a finger, that way workers at other polls can easily discern if they voted that day. (since it will likely still be bleeding.)
sock puppet September 26, 2012 at 01:13 AM
Ryen is naive about the realities of poor people and what you can do without valid photo ID. Not everyone gets paid in checks. Not everyone uses a bank, etc etc etc. Not every drives.
Andrew Turkenkopf September 26, 2012 at 01:17 AM
HAHAHA Ryen actually still believes the ACORN "scandal" actually occurred to the level originally "reported."
Steven DeVaux September 26, 2012 at 03:17 AM
Those who have nothing to hide, hide nothing. Those that do, do. One has to prove they are, in fact, a citizen in order to garner the right to vote under the constitution. In fact, in the beginning one had to be a land owner.
Dave Abernethy September 26, 2012 at 01:35 PM
States also used to grant the vote only to taxpayers. You know, people who payed for government. But the current hurdle is the 1965 Voters Rights Act which unduely burdens certain states as if they were still the DEMOCRAT PARTY'S Jim Crow South. It seems our Democrat friends used to deny the vote in varying ways to blacks. Section 5 prevents these states from making any changes in voter laws without the prior approval of the DOJ. So, now the Act is used to prevent some states from instituting ID laws. Our Democrat friends love to mess with the vote, have a history of doing so, and (as our President has perfected) always blame others for what they themselves have done. I especially enjoy the way Libs can find NO fraud, nor the potential for fraud in the truckloads of voter registrations they dump on Registrars shortly before every election. Behold, they say. More saints to partake in the holy vote. Question not their qualifications. WE have got their signatures, and that is enough.
Susan Balla September 26, 2012 at 05:45 PM
I don't know what the big deal is with having ID when you go and vote. You now have to give an ID at every doctor you see. If you do not drive you can go down to the motor vehicle office and just get an ID card that looks like a drivers licence. It also will show whether you are a legal alien or a person who was born here. It is interesting that in Scandinavia every person has an ID card with their social security number on it. Even in Germany, Switzerland, and Russia. We are becoming global so we need to fit in blobally. I know we use to be isolationists but that now has gone out the window. We are also controlled by computers. We buy everything with a card (credit, debit). It is interesting also that eventually we will have the mark on our heads or the back of our hands so we can buy food and clothes. There is nothing anyone can do about this. It is coming.
Linda Taylor September 26, 2012 at 06:36 PM
Tell me if I am wrong here..but first you have to REGISTER to be able to vote and in order to REGISTER you need to show an ID.
Susan Balla September 26, 2012 at 06:58 PM
Linda you are not wrong. Yes you do need to show ID to register.
Dave Abernethy September 26, 2012 at 07:21 PM
Most states only ask for either the last 4 digits of a soc. sec. number, or a driver license. If you don't have one of those, most states issue an ID number. The idea is to prevent the person from voting twice. But, who knows how many times the person registered in different precincts and got another number assigned. Add to that the ACORN style registration drives which swamp the system with new registrants shortly before elections. The system is full of opportunities for fraud. We are so used to showing our driver licenses to anyone who asks that we assume: 1) That it is a requirement even when it is not, 2)That everyone else is showing such a level of ID. Given the relative ease with which non-citizens obtain various IDs in order to access benefits, even a D/L isn't as ironclad an ID as one thinks. Democrats were expert at voter suppression until LBJ, with the indespensible help of the Republicans, put a stop to it. However, since they subsequently convinced the majority of minorities that Dems are the source of rights, opportunities, and benefits, it has become the goal of the Dems to register not only these folks, but every other warm body that can cast a vote--for THEM. Thus, the sanctification of the vote and the vilification of those who want to bring order to this very productive chaos.
Brian September 26, 2012 at 07:46 PM
Negative Mr. Lasser, getting online costs money in both hardware and online access, the same "poll tax" argument will be made. Unless internet access will become a "right", but even then a credit check is required before services are turned on by any provider in the area. I suppose we'll make the potential disenfranchised wait in line at the library and schools for "free" access.
Brian September 26, 2012 at 07:51 PM
Is Eugene Robinson one of the fabled "non-partisan" sources?
Mary Davis October 24, 2012 at 08:49 PM
So, here is an interesting video... for something the liberals claim NEVER happens. http://youtu.be/gT77qP2Nai8
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 10:34 PM
@ Andrew T: As usual, you will see below that Andrew T. comes into debates with these qualities: 1. long on the "ha ha has" 2. short on any specific facts 3. makes up some stories out of whole cloth 4. is biased 5. attacks individuals and muddies the debate and does not stick to points about a debate with supporting evidence. Look at his comments and see. Anytime you see Andrew comment, he is bound to be engaged in one of those types of actions, guaranteed. ;)
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 10:39 PM
I want to make sure we enshrine these two profound comments by Sock puppet: SP said: 1. "Ryen's naive about realities of poor people and what you can do without valid photo ID. Not everyone gets paid in checks. Not everyone uses a bank, not everyone drives, etc." 2. SP said: "Personally, I think a intelligence test for voting is needed. It would be simple. If they watch Fox News, or just recite/repeat proven conservative media lies/falsehoods without any sense of irony, then they are too dumb to vote." These two comments show an immense immaturity, lack of facts, recitation of empty black/white statements, etc. etc. A limited response will be found above....
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 10:47 PM
@ sock puppet: 1. How do you know my own income or experience, SockieP?? Explain in detail, please. 2. How do you know "what I am familiar with"--explain with specific details, please? 3. If they do not drive, how do they get to the voting booth--not many on bus routes? If they get a ride--do they have a social security card? Social Security cards are free. 4. Do they collect unemployment or state benefits? If not, how do they LIVE? Those benefits come by check--where would you cash a check with no ID? Give specifics please--oh, you great one so informed about "poor people"! ;) 5. Bottom line--unless you are an illegal alien (and then you should not be voting--that is ILLEGAL SockieP) or a migrant farm worker (not too many of them in Fairfield County or the northeast, and they STILL should be able to get a State ID, dodo) you have every resource to be able to identify yourself in this country--and SHOULD just for your own safety in any given situation. Keep it REAL please SockieP--not baloney like you are serving up. ;)
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 10:52 PM
Many examples above and below of why Sockie Puppie does not merit responses as a serious debater. He talks about the FOX or conservative echo chamber--actually Sockie Puppie is doing a very excellent and credible job of creating his own echo chamber on Patch--if you read his comments they all sound the same--the same self-absorbed "truisms" repeated over and over again--if he repeats them to himself enough times, maybe they will be true when he wakes up and gets out into the world....
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Anyone (i.e., Sockie Puppie) who claims that the ACORN scandal and events never really happened has been drinking A LOT of Kool Aid and may be addicted to it. Go to a doctor or rehab center for help. Also, by the way, I am actually wondering the true identity of Sockie Puppie: may be someone else in these debates using an anonymous screen name so they can speak more aggressively and inappropriately and wildly. I have a software program that analyzes writing for patterns not noticeable to the lay reader--I will get back to you with my results! :)
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Howard Lasser: No matter how "greater than thou" you claim to be; no matter how many links you post; no matter how much smarter than everyone else you think that you are; no matter how self-righteous you are; no matter how paternal you come on, thinly veiled in your "here, let me help you understand the Truth" approach. I respect your opinion less and less. I do not care about all your "links"--anyone can come up with a ton of links to debate these points. You have your opinion and your position and you will hold onto them dearly. Good luck. You actually need to be woken up some day to the facts of life--that will probably not happen because people like yourself are in power all over the country. But intelligent, "simple facts" people--and voter id or citizen id is a SIMPLE FACT debate--will never be fooled by all your flowery language and links. Voter fraud is well-documented throughout the world and throughout history. The self-righteous spouting platitudes like yours are often the ones that benefited from the voter fraud, ironically!
Mary Davis December 12, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Ryen: Its been a while since this post has been active (I get emailed when it does). I applaud your replies to the liberals... but your mistake is thinking logic and facts will matter to them. They don't care. After the disappointing election I stopped trying to educate the liberal hard-core lost souls... they will never care about facts. Instead conservatives have to go after the demographics that have been recently traditionally democratic...and educate them about the facts of life. One at a time... Best Regards and Merry Christmas!
Ryen December 12, 2012 at 11:06 PM
OMG--Howard still trying to "get the last word" and now here with the "online voting" pie in the sky--like that will change anything about potential voter fraud either....LOL
Dave Abernethy December 12, 2012 at 11:36 PM
I am sick of Dems resisting what we now know is possible. People who did not want to buy health insurance now MUST. This will require photo I.D. REQUIRE!!!! Since they will henceforth have photo I.D., they will have it to show at the polls.
Andrew Turkenkopf December 13, 2012 at 01:53 AM
Heheh for some reason people think sock puppet is me. Check the time on other posts on other threads. I'm pretty sure I haven't been commenting on the patch while riding around in a truck all day at my day job. Try again, nutso.


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