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Happy Landings Site Proposed for Kanine Kingdom

A group of Brookfield residents are attempting to build a dog park at Happy Landings.

Brookfield residents are , an off-leash dog park. The renewed effort has a new target location, , and is looking to gather support before a crucial Board of Selectmen’s (BOS) meeting.

Organizers attempted the same project last year and were to build on open space near the Gurski Homestead, however the on the grounds that the park might “compromise the preservation of the buildings.”

Keith Wolff, one of the original organizers, vowed to look for a new spot and try again. Wolff teamed up with Lisa Allan, a Brookfield resident who owns a dog walking, grooming and training business, and met with the Conservation Commission earlier this month, where they were given approval to try again with Happy Landings.

“Their criteria was something that from a topography standpoint was good, had good drainage and was in a central location in town,” Wolff said, stating that the front section of Happy Landings met all of those and the Commission voted unanimously to recommend it as the location.

The park would be a fenced-in area, just shy of 1 acre, near the property’s frontage on Whisconier Road, to the right of the parking lot.

“You go there at any time and there are always people walking their dogs,” Allan noted of the popular walking spot. “If anything, this will help with the dog waste,” as it will be confined to a specific area with strict rules about removal.

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The next step is to gain the approval of the BOS, which will consider the proposal at their June 4 meeting.

Before that, Wolff and Allan want to put together an official committee to oversee fundraising, construction and future maintenance of the park. To that end, they’ve scheduled .

(Supporters who cannot attend can also sign the online petition.)

“The meeting is only for supporters,” Allan said, as the goal is to bring together anyone that would like to volunteer, from fundraising to labor to sitting on the committee.

“Our focus is to get this thing going,” Wolff said. “The proper venue for those that don’t support it is the Board of Selectmen’s meeting.”

Wolff was hopeful that the BOS and community would support the Happy Landings decision.

“It’s taken quite awhile to find the right location,” he said, “But we’re comfortable with it, the town’s comfortable with it — it’s a good location.”

Going by construction expenses from parks built in nearby towns, such as New Milford, building Kanine Kingdom is expected to cost between $20,000 and $25,000, plus a “nominal ongoing maintenance budget” for trash hauling and needed repairs, Wolff explained.

If the organization of supporters and fundraising goes smoothly, Wolff and Allan hope to have the fence up and the park open as early as next spring.

“If we can complete the fundraising this year into early next year, putting up the fencing will take less than a week,” Wolff said. “I think if we can start aggressively fundraising in June, it’s feasible.”

Lisa Allan May 31, 2012 at 10:32 PM
Ellen, I respectfully disagree. What's child like? The fact that I am representing a group of people? The fact that I'm taking a lot of abuse and name calling from people and continuing to answer questions? Maybe you don't know this but many of the posts where I was called names were taken down. All I ever did was call people rude. I am not acting entitled at all...in fact I've said many times I'd look at other places. It's many of the opposition that have said "get away from MY land". or "Get off our land". THAT is entitlement. I'm sorry I come off that way to you. I assure you that those are none of my attributes. oh, I am stubborn but that's just in general.
Tanya Woods May 31, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Agreed, this has gotten completely out of control.
Ellen May 31, 2012 at 10:51 PM
So, Lisa, are you saying that whoever it was that stated you agreed with a comment calling people opposed to what you want "crazzies" is a liar???
Ellen May 31, 2012 at 11:36 PM
Tina, who lives in NY, apparently, and who was probably recruited by Lisa, who posted on lost dogs' Facebook pages to get people to shout down the opposition has called me ignorant. Tina, that is so very rude and childish of you. I know all I care to know about any breed that is capable of killing me and or my dog. Lisa Allan,, have they found that lost dog with 4,000 followers around the world??? You know, the Facebook page where you posted for recruits to come here and argue with people? Tina, when you talk about the bully breeds, I now assume you are talking about people like yourself who don't even live in CT who shove their way into what should be a local discussion and treat everyone who disagrees about taking open land for a dog park with total disrespect.
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 12:41 AM
Hi Ellen, Wow..I got out for a few in Danbury and come back to assumptions. That is ok..I will clarify what you THINK you know about me. Yes I reside in Dutchess County NY and I work in both NY and CT. So, I pay taxes in both states as well as donate money and time to shelters in YOUR state as well. I have been residing and working in both areas for the past twelve years. As far as Lisa "recruiting me", no you are incorrect on that as well. Lisa and I are friends and we both work in the canine world..I took it upon myself to take part in her committee if one forms for the dog park that she is hoping to pursue and I also took it upon myself to comment on these threads. Now, if there is anything else you have a question on or would like clarification on I would gladly assist you in the matter.
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 12:42 AM
Aaron that is the best post all day!
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Michael, yes that is something to think about in pertaining to your question of others in the future..but again it would still be up to voting, town people and politics..it is just not something that just appears. So to answer your question..it would depend on who what where and why and the last say. As far as the information on ME being rude..well..I can sit here and pick out all the threads and quotes but I do not have enough room in this 1000 word space..so the bottom line is there has been too much complaint and not enough discussion or solutions. People have alot to say but most times they dont even take a minute to think about the proposed idea. It is frustrating to say the least. Having at least an open mind is much better than a tight sealed one. I am not one way only..I have said numerous times on here I understand peoples concerns and wants for another location..and AGAIN if people came to a meeting and spoke with the townspeople then maybe a comprise or other solution can be made. I for one am not saying you or anyone is wrong in how you feel about a location but I am at least open about it whereas too many are just strong holding NO without any thought. At least give it a thought..is that too much to ask? As far as "ignorance" yes I am honest..too many people are when it comes to dogs and dog parks..it is the truth. I see it every day working in the canine world. Many (not all) have an ideal of novelty when they get a dog till that wears off..it is a commitment.
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 02:46 AM
I guess some people don't know how. They just continue to be presumptuous and nasty.
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 02:48 AM
Ellen: presumptuous much?
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 02:53 AM
I agree dogs should release energy before going into a dog park but I disagree with most of what Cesar Milan has to say. You should search on youtube about his methods of teaching that involves kicking dogs. Let me know if you can't find the videos and I'll search too
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 03:13 AM
Wow, You love to jump to conclusions. I was just trying to share something with you and how you twisted that all up. I don't know why I bother.
Ellen June 01, 2012 at 04:17 AM
Lisa, what am I being presumptious about in your mind? You mean that I thought Tina didn't even live in CT because she said to you that you should come to NY??? And, if she wasn't recruited from the lost dog Facebook page then I guess you wasted your time there and got people a bit ticked off in the process. I'm done with this. Presumptious of you to think I live in Brookfield because I don't. I was just so amazed by the entitlement attitude that I wasn't able to keep my mouth shut. People who don't want this particular land used for a dog park don't have to provide you with an alternative. And, I consider myself lucky that I have a place that's a 20 minute drive away to take my dogs. Stop the whining! And, good-bye! The two of you have been very snarky (and I don't care if I spelled that wrong). It just doesn't help your case any.
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 05:06 AM
Actually I was referring to you saying that I "recruited Tina". It would be nice if I only heard facts. It feels as though people are angry and they have to take it out on someone, right? I'm not talking about you, just in general. People are jumping to conclusions and they don't want to hear a word. Worse, they are misconstruing my words and putting words into my mouth. I don't think I've been anything but reasonable and pretty calm, all things considered. I have not "whined" at all. I don't see where you would get that from. You see what you want to see I guess. Happy Landings is owned by the town, not the residents. The entitlement lies on the other side. We have looked all over town and have offered to take more suggestions. In return I get called spoiled, snobby, childish. I get accused of taking YOUR land. First of all it's not your land and I am not taking it. I don't want to hear that anymore. Also, no one is proposing a nuclear power plant. All of a sudden I'm getting blamed for a parking lot? Come on! I've been nothing but nice on this board and I still continue to read the remarks and criticisms just so I can answer people who have legitimate questions. Am I getting to involved? Probably.
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 05:14 AM
Let's agree to disagree
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 05:30 AM
I'll tell you one thing...I don't even want to look in the direction of Happy Landings right now. It's sad. Some people tell me to keep it up, they want this...and I do it for a large group. Part of me thinks about what happens if the dog park does happen? Am I going to want to go there with my dogs and feel uncomfortable? But hey, it's not my decision, is it? A huge number of people want this and I will do it for them because I believe in my heart that they are a great asset to the community. I have to remember all the positive people telling me to keep going, they want this...not the people who call me names and treat me like dirt. I have to rise above it
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 10:24 AM
LOL
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Lisa..what you should think about is leave the internet..no facebooking, no comment boards, none of this crap. Just keep it focused on live one on one interaction..meetings with the town and if people that are opposed can come to the town meetings and talk to the officials..there is no real need to continue this on the internet. There is no questions for you to answer for people that if they come to a meeting can find out on their own. It is not your job to educate them..and honestly..they do not deserve your time..time is precious and other things need to be focused on rather than bantering back and forth fighting with pixels on a screen. I am leaving this site because it is a big waste of time..but just message me and keep me updated on meetings.. T
Lisa Allan June 01, 2012 at 02:15 PM
You are right Tina. I believe this is becoming way too personal. I don't think it matters what I say...I'm obviously wasting my time and energy. I've said it many times...I was here to speak for a group of people and answer questions for people. Instead, everything was taken out of context and misconstued. I've been called all sorts of names and ganged up upon. People want a dog park...I agree. I don't think that is much to ask for and I believe it benefits the community as a whole. I've wiped myself out here trying to be helpful. So glad I'm not in politics!
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 02:21 PM
Exacty..just go about doing what your doing..and if people want to oppose (which they are entitled to do) they can do that on their own to the town..get off the internet world and just concentrate on what you are tying to accomplish. I might come Monday pending work..I will email you...either way you have my support..just breath and remove yourself from where you do not need to expend your energy.
Lifelong Resident June 01, 2012 at 04:07 PM
Good Lord, people - TIna - #1) - you don't live in Brookfield, probably (and i apologize if i am wrong) never did. so your opinion of the location and how the citizens of Brookfield respond to things they object to or feel passionate about is unwarranted, unwanted, and perhaps you should be the friend you are to Lisa and not escallate things when you can just call her personally with your support. #2) - it is really the location - that is the main issue here, not who can train a dog, who deserves a dog, what rescue has denied a dog (though many DO if you don't have a fenced in yard for some reason). #3) - This issue has nothing to do with an election year, or who feels entitled. It is TRULY about the desire to keep the open space as it is without the increased parking area that the town will have to plow (yes, people, the town guys plow the space, so we would be paying for this) and without the needed fencing for the dog park. (who would be maintaining this after initial donated funds run dry? ) - would it be the town? you betcha. And without the noise, etc. A lot of other suggestions have been made re; other space - Lisa - you may want to try to go back with those suggestions as obviously Happy Landings is precious to so many as is.... I oppose the location - do not think we need a dog park, but if one should go through - just build it (yes building is required here) somewhere else.
barb norman June 01, 2012 at 04:22 PM
OK, here I go again, at the risk of being blasted, verbally. Point one - "Happy Landings belongs to the town, and not the people" - and what IS a town, if not its citizens, so by extension, "we" do own Happy Landings. Point two - This is a Brookfield issue, affecting Brookfield residents, and I have to agree with many that the postings of Tina, which have been many and excessively passionate are subject to question since she does not live in this town. For all her castigation of "posters" as being rude, nasty, etc. etc. etc. - she has no qualms about denigrating all people who live in CT. Since you have no vested interest in this area, and since you also seem to hold all CT residents in such low esteem - why do you care?? I agree that some of the postings have crossed the line - on both sides, and I regret that - but when people feel passionately about a cause - passionate responses can be the result. I politely repeat my initial plea - please leave Happy Landings as it is - what you are proposing is NOT a good use of that space. And may I suggest that if you don't live in this town, and are not a former resident of this town, whoever you are - your comments only add fuel to the fire - and quite frankly, this whole issue is none of your business! Let's keep this as a discussion among Brookfield residents and/or former residents.
Tina Quatroni June 01, 2012 at 04:33 PM
Hi Barb, I just want to clarify something..with all due to respect to you..because you are actually communicating which is welcoming. You are correct I do not live in CT, but I am going to possibly be on the dog park committee if the park itself comes to fruitition. I also work in both CT and NY for the past 12 years, so I pay my dues to CT and I also conduct volunteer work in CT shelters as well as assist a few with monetary means. I am NOT a Brookfield resident but I am a person who might be part of their committee and therefore entitles me to speak. I also am a strong supporter of certain not for profits and shelters in your state and have been for many years. The debate with the location, you are right is meant for the town and the people in that town..no one has said any different. What I have been passionate and defesive on is the attacking done on a person instead of adult conversation and healthy debate. I have interest in this park..maybe not at Happy Landings..and that is fine..Lisa understands that too..that was advised to her to use not her choice. So at this point there are those that want it and those that oppose..great..go to the meeting on June 4th and voice whatever that choice is.. I already stated I will not be coming to the site anymore..I wanted to address you because you are respectful and I appreciate that. But this internet board is really not doing anything for anyone. I wish you a good day..
Brookfield Mom June 01, 2012 at 04:52 PM
Redding, New Fairfield, New Milford, and many other towns have dog parks that are not abused. They are well maintained and highly valued by the people who use them. Other towns like Fairfield have parks that are designated off-leash and owners are very respectful of others. Why would Brookfield be any different?
Margaret Petta June 01, 2012 at 04:58 PM
@ Lifelong Resident. Thank you so much for your last comment! I have be reading these comments for days & can not believe how many people have responded. As a resident of Brookfield I agree with all your statements especially with regards for care/cost/ and maintence. Any resident of our town should be able to think of at least one project that was started by a group and ended up being the responsibilty of the town of brookfield. When their money drys up, will this be one more park we ask Park & Rec to maintain??? Denis DiPinto and his staff do an amazing job, but I do not think in any of their job descriptions cleaning up poop is listed. Unless there is a long range plan of how to maintain such a park I feel the town is wasting everyones time.
Brookfield Mom June 01, 2012 at 05:41 PM
The dog park is not a place for a child. They do not understand how to interact safely with the animals. Citing 1 example of injury does not support your statement that dog parks "attract lots of problems and dog bite injury attorneys." Please give facts, not fear.
Steven DeVaux June 05, 2012 at 02:28 AM
Poop is the domain of the WPCA - and they are running out of capacity.
Barzak Schlomo June 05, 2012 at 07:35 PM
What about my cat! Where is she supposed to walk, we all know that they can't be mixed in with dogs. Is Brookfield serious about this, have they nothing else to do with $25,000 but make a place for dogs? Wake up here! What's next is what I'm wondering. If those people that have dogs need a place to walk them, then I suggest they pool their money and rent a piece of land, put up a fence and take care of it themselves. This isn't Manhattan, where there are no places to take your dog for a walk........and CLEAN UP AFTER IT! Can't you see it now, how many people are going to clean up the mess from their dog! Let the town do it, they're getting paid for it! Take that $25,000 and feed some people. WAKE UP PEOPLE! When will it all end.
H. Ferguson June 05, 2012 at 08:45 PM
In the Bible, Book of Romans Chapter 1, verse 25 the Apostle Paul says .."Who (people) changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator." The crux of the issue is people are putting their pets above humans. Dogs do not need "socialization". They are being assigned human characteristics by people who are forcing dogs into a role above the needs and wishes of us humans. Dogs were created to assist man in many ways, companionship, protection, hunting, etc. Dogs need humans to take care of them and train them. That fulfills the needs of the dog! That makes them happy and well adjusted! Dogs parks are designed to assign guilt to people that we have somehow abused our pets and have to make amends by taking them to a dog park to visit and socialize with other dogs! The whole thing is absurd! It is a waste of our time. I am disappointed our BOS don't have the guts to just say no. There is more than enough open space in Brookfield to walk your dog on a leash to exercise both you and the dog. The Kanine Committee is going to shake down local business people for money, which would still translate into a tax on Brookfield residents because these businesses are barely surviving in this economy. What if they raise their prices to cover the cost of their donations to the dog park? Brookfield residents will still foot the bill.
Happy Camper June 05, 2012 at 10:27 PM
And in the bible is says you shouldn't eat meat, you shouldn't pierce your ears, you shouldn't get tattos, and the list goes on. Please dont sit here and cite the bible when it pertains to dogs or any pets for that matter. The bible has no place in a debate on land and the proper use of it. This discussion and idea is good and healthy and I am happy to see people excersising their freedoms of a democracy in this town of Brookfield..and I hope everyone gets what is fair for all. But for you to sit here and cite biblical text is ridiculous. No one puts an animal before God..whoever God is to them..matter of fact then I guess Saint Francis was a sinner. Dogs happen to need socialization because they are a pack animal..and they also need socialization in order to train a dog to be comfortable with people places and things..if you do not socialize your dog they will begin to show signs of agression and anxiety..and that is very factual with many studies by many various veternarians.
Steven DeVaux August 15, 2012 at 09:47 AM
MG, Join all the dog owners who bring Fido to the Friday night concerts. Hey, they clean up after their dog, right? Walk Fido on the soccer field or in Kids Kingdom or even the hill in front of the bandstand. It's a free country. For now.

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