BOE Votes 4-3 on 2.86 Percent Spending Increase
Board of Ed restores funding and sends 2012-13 budget to First Selectman.
The Brookfield Board of Education (BOE) approved a proposed $37,185,545 budget that would increase spending by 2.86 percent, add more teachers at the elementary schools through the reallocation of existing positions and some additional funding, while also restoring money for paraprofessionals and remedial reading instructors, which were on the chopping block in earlier budget proposals.
“Parents expect us to provide a quality education,” BOE Vice Chairman Jane Miller said Wednesday in voting for the package, which is slightly higher than the 2.76 percent spending hike that Superintendent Anthony Bivona proposed in his presentation December 21.
BOE Chairman Ray DiStephan voted against the package, indicating that he supported another of the four scenarios provided by the administration, which would have only increased spending by 2.74 percent.
However, he said he was comfortable with the adopted plan, noting that it is only $46,000 higher than the plan he supported.
BOE member Harry Shaker said he favored a 2.48 percent spending increase, indicating that to get approved in May at referendum, the budget would need to carry a hike of less than 2.7 percent.
The adopted package was approved 4-3, with Miller, Scott McCarthy, Victor Katz and Paul Checco supporting it and BOE Secretary Susan Queenan, Shaker and DiStephan voting in opposition.
The plan includes an additional kindergarten teacher at Center Elementary School (CES), which should lower class sizes to 18 students per teacher as the district starts its all-day kindergarten program next August. There also will be extended time for monitors at CES.
Under the proposal, the school district would add a fourth grade teacher at Huckleberry Hill Elementary School (HHES) and reallocate a teacher from Whisconier Middle School (WMS) to HHES and restore the two remedial reading teachers that the BOE had considered eliminating.
School administrators have said the additional teachers at HHES should bring the average classroom sizes to the BOE’s guidelines or at least close to meeting that standard.
“Getting the class sizes down at Huckleberry has long been an issue,” DiStephan said.
The BOE also decided to restore the full-time equivalent of 5.67 paraprofessional positions that had been proposed for elimination since federal funds to pay for them will expire in June.
Tim Riddle, the president of the paraprofessionals bargaining unit, told the BOE during public comment that the loss of the 5.67 positions “will have an impact on kids.”
“The paraprofessionals are part of the classroom team,” said Olga Weitzman, who, like Riddle, is a paraprofessional at WMS.
“We are the first line of defense,” she added.
Bivona said the paraprofessionals are “dedicated educators” and that his proposal to eliminate the positions wasn’t “devaluing” them.
He said he was attempting to “balance the budget the best we could.”
Bivona said over the recent years the district had eliminated 14 teaching positions and only seven paraprofessional positions.
DiStephan said in an interview after the meeting that he believed the BOE restored the positions because the members believe “that they impact” students.
Riddle said his members will speak to the Board of Finance (BOF) as it considers the proposed municipal budget this spring.
“We’re going to leave no stone unturned to get it done,” he said.
The BOE’s proposal also includes a maintenance mechanic, a new position that would be responsible for heating and ventilation issues and other maintenance related to the school buildings.
DiStephan has said he believes it would be better to have a staff person address those issues instead of outsourcing the work.
The BOE was able to restore some proposed reductions and keep the spending increase under 2.9 percent by lowering a variety of line items, including coaches, postage and leases on photocopying machines.
The BOE’s proposed budget will be sent by January 31 to First Selectman Bill Davidson, who is expected to present his proposed municipal budget to the Board of Selectmen (BOS) by February 15.
The BOS will then adopt its recommended plan and send it to the BOF by March 1.
DiStephan said the BOE’s proposed 2.86 percent increase is comparable to what several other similar districts are recommending.
“Now we have to let everybody know that we think this is a reasonable budget in regards to the kids and the homeowners,” he said.
Brookfield is undergoing a revaluation of property values, which, generally speaking, have declined as a result of the economic recession.
“I believe that dollars spent on schools have a return to every homeowner,” DiStephan said. “I think it’s a very sound investment.”
Ryen
7:45 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
How many of you are getting 3% guaranteed increases every year in your job or business, with LUSH fringe benefits that cost more every year, plus TWO MONTHS off a YEAR every year PLUS vacations in addition to the two months off? Average salary around $50,000 a year (entry level, corrected for partial-year) and quickly jumps up to almost $73,000 to $80,000 a year plus (when corrected for partial year) PLUS benefits, remember....)? And walk in to work at 7:30 or 8 am some mornings and walk out by 3 pm MANY afternoons....how many of you would like to have that life for a working person--oh, plus tenure (another word for no actual accountability in a REAL WORLD sense)...Oh, and do not forget the union that is like a powerful PAC and spends MILLIONS efvery year just in advertising and mailings and "organizing".... Nice! Yeah, what the hee....give them another 3% of our taxes for a few more years....while our country goes broke..... ;)
Ray DiStephan
9:41 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I'll go out on a limb and assume that it is teachers that you are referring to.
FYI, teachers are getting a general wage increase of 0% year-to-year for the next three years AND agreed to take on a greater part of their medical insurance cost by agreeing to switch to a high deductable health plan that saves the district about $600K in health care costs for teachers.
Additionally, teachers work exceptionally hard and do great work in Brookfield Schools. That is supported by the facts.
The primary reason that we were able to adopt a budget under 3% and maintain what we have and even improve an area or two of need is primarily due to the contract that the teachers agreed to.
Ryen
11:22 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
@R_DiStephan: First of all, I'm referring to educational bureaucracy--not just teachers specifically. Teachers are victims of greedy state & national union also. Many teachers (especially young teachers) don't realize the teacher propaganda (and YES, it is propaganda if you have ever seen a teachers' union newsletter or national campaign) perpetrated by the teachers' union--that they (and WE) also pay for. Teachers' unions should be banned & illegal--the breaches of ethical standards & conflicts of interest are too long to list here! And you perpetrate a LIE, in the strict sense, by constantly talking about 0% INCREASES; first of all, there's no such thing as "0%" when it comes to education & government budgets--LOOK at the existing DEBT & look at the HISTORICAL record of increases! Claiming 0% ANYTHING in a government budget is NONSENSE! Wake UP! Then you claim that the teacher's benefit package is "saving us money"??! I was born at night--but not last night! ;) How do you perpetuate lies like that(in the strict sense)?? SOME teachers (NOT all) work very hard for 182 days a year (there are 365 total days in a year)--some not only do not work hard, but damage children & damage students through poor practices--& I have SPECIFIC examples by the HUNDREDS & more. THAT's FACT. Don't take ONE system with SOME good programs & SOME good teachers & try to make the whole district "golden" by extension--that is dishonest. (to be continued in next sagment)
Ryen
11:25 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
(this reply is continued from below--previous post) And so: Your last statement about "teachers taking a certain contract" proves MY point about the problem, not yours--talking about "under 3%" in this day and age shows a quality of being "out of touch with reality" and perhaps being snowed by government debt and budget talks for too long. Where will it stop?? You are paying people's income and benefits that have been gone for decades--and you are still talking about "under 3%" PLEASE stop the INSANITY!!!! I rest my case (for now) with a repeat of my original statement: who amongst you is expecting or used to 3% INCREASES in your budget, organization, salary, benefits, programs, etc. year after year after year after year????
MZY
8:20 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Here we going again..enough already! I have been unemployed for almost 3 years and cannot find a job to save my life. We're are underwater on our house by thousands but every year since we moved to Brookfield in 2006 our taxes keep going up and up. It's getting harder & harder each month to survive and now this town wants even more of my money! I know many are in the same boat...I've had to cut back and sacrifice..why can't the government do the same!
Bee Rye
8:33 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I hope this does not go through. I will be voting no!
Longtime Brookfield resident
9:42 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
How can we take anything seriuosly form Mr. Bivona who has asked teachers to freeze pay , has asked Para professionals to take pay freeze but who accepted his own pay raise - Hypocrite- We need to consider the salaries of the admin - A simple freeze of thier pays would supplement all the para professionals. I simply can not support someone so willing to take and yet ask others to sacrifice - Lets see a salary of 180k getting a 30k pay raise vs a para at 15k per year - not hard to do this math. Also we have ciriculum leaders for Kindergarten and first grade making 100k - I think that the studies of Kindergarten and First Grade are not that complicated and that we do not need such a highly qualified well paid person in that position. Why can we not use Huckleberries leader or combine these positions like other towns
Ray DiStephan
10:17 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
ALL BOE employees (including the Superintendent) have taken a 0% increase at some point during the past 3-4 years.
Paras were not cut in this proposal. In fact, we made a huge effort to restore the possible cuts to those positions
The superintendent's raise from this year to next year does not even approach $30K. Working from memory, I believe he is due for an increase around 3%. As discussed so many times last year, this still lands our Superintendent amongst the lower paid Superintendents in the DRG.
I would add that budgets have never been as efficient in Brookfield as they have been since Mr. Bivona became our Superintendent. This has been acknowledged by nearly all the past members of the BOE, BOS and BOF. There have been independent studies that have validated that Brookfield is a highly efficient school district. This is due, in no small way, to the work of Mr. Bivona and his staff.
As to the curriculum leader at CES, that is a longer conversation. But I will just say that in the coming year(s), we will be implementing full-day kindergarten, new common core standards, the new Response To Intervention models (already in development), and other new initiatives that are keeping both curriculum leaders very busy to say the least. The need is absolutely real.
Ryen
11:32 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
BINGO! YES! Kindergarten teachers (working even less days a year than middle school teachers) getting paid $58,000 and up to $80,000 a year--to teach kindergarten and first grade? And to be a union puppet and run scared to the administration every time a parent askes them a hard question?? LUDICROUS!! It is sad where we have gone with education--and how fewer and fewer teachers that actually love learning and love children's growth are going into teaching....it has all become about chasing dollars and benefit packages...to heck with the local residents....and the kids are babied also....and not just by the teachers....
Ryen
11:38 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
Why does Mr. DiStephan and the district constantly talk about "new standards" and "new programs" and "new curriculum" if the district is so successful in education?? What is the "new" stuff--be specific please? It is all technology--what else is it? It is not fixing the facilities. Waalk around a few of the schools--the town can't keep the parking lots and playground equipment in repair!!!!!!!!! And the school administration does nothing about it! Do I want decent recreational equipment that actually stands up and works (for ALL kids) at recess--or new technology? I KNOW you are not going to claim that the district is EFFEICIENT and EFFECTIVE in getting construction and facilities work done--do we need to go back to the high school FIASCO? How efficient was THAT, Mr. DiStephan???? Fix your own SIMPLE HOUSE before y ou start perpetrating lies about "under 3%" and how thrifty our administrator salaries are! PLEEEAAASE! ;)
Ray DiStephan
9:50 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I would be interested in exactly where you think we should cut back?
Just like for community members, costs for the district have increased dramatically. The price of heating oil and fuel has gone up. The cost of health care for all employees rises every year. And non-tax dollar revenues, such as grant funding, go down every year. These increases are not a result of wasteful or elaborate spending. If you think so, please tell us where that wasteful spending is taking place.
In fact, the BOE has taken great strides in holding increases to a minimum while maintaining schools. This has been achieved through excellent negotiations with employees, renegotiated contracts for services and equipment and other efficiencies that were found in operating procedures.
Education budgets must be responsible to the students and the taxpayers. A "no-increase" budget would be devastating to the school system and would be highly irresponsible as a town.
I implore you to study the facts involved and not be pursued by emotional reactions to any thought of an "increase".
Longtime Brookfield resident
10:55 am on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Ray - even though we might not always agree I must say you take the time to respond and have earned my respect for that- Your dedication and hard work done for this town should be commended - Now back to our discussion
1. Have we look at the impact of going to school 183 days vs 180 days - what do those 3 extra days cost us ? These days are usually not productive as the kids are ready for summer vacation anyway
2. Lets revisit the CES ciriculum leader and evaluate pay vs tasks and number of students. I can not see this position being a 100k job- it just seems like a made up position for a well qualifed employee that we did not have a job for so we created a position for.
3. Do we have any contingency funds built into this budget - basically are there any funds that are available to the superintendent for unexpected expenses ? such as employee issues , travel expenes etc..
4. We spend a ton of money for our staff to attend conferences - why do we need to send multiple staff members to these - why not send one who comes back and briefs entire staff. The cost of this is not just the confernce cost and travel costs but those of substitute staff memebers
I could go on
Ray DiStephan
12:14 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
LTR – thank you for the supportive words and the respect is very mutual. I appreciate you asking the tough questions and being open minded on the answers.
The 3 days in question are a difficult issue. First off, to “cut days” and realize any savings we would need concessions from ALL of the bargaining units and be able to renegotiate things like transportation. It is problematic to say the least and realistically not an option. Furthermore, I am not sure that those days are as non-productive as you may think.
I feel strongly about the curriculum leader position and my ability to defend it. However, in the interest of a good open-minded dialogue, let me get a little more information on this before I respond any further.
Ray DiStephan
12:15 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
There is NO contingency funds in the budget. That is an absolute fact even though a few have said otherwise in the past. There ARE certain line items that are estimates because we simply have now way of knowing the final result. One such example is when we have family leaves and need replacements. There is no way to know how many employees may need to take a family leave next year. But when it does happen, we will need to provide substitutes and fulfill our obligations in those situations. So data from past years are used to make a reasonable estimate on how much would be needed to fill our obligations. We do NOT want to come up short in an area like this and have to go back to the town to ask for additional funds (something that this administration has never had to do). Likewise, there is an abundance of wiggle room in these line items at the end of the year. My understanding for this year is that we are just about dead-on, but we will have to see come year’s end.
Again, this is one such example. These lines have been managed efficiently.
I’d like to point out that the schools and the town just received an "unqualified clean opinion" of town finances” in the audit with only a minor communication – NOT DOLLAR – procedure correction that was recommended.
Ray DiStephan
12:19 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Sorry... I meant to say "there is NOT an abundance of wiggle room in these line items at the end of the year."
ouch... that one could've hurt! But to be clear... that statement (the corrected one) is supported by the facts and the numbers.
Ray DiStephan
12:15 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I do not believe our line on conferences, etc is nearly as “fat” as you stated. We have a number of new initiatives and mandates every year and we need to have staff adequately prepared and informed about these changes. We fund their ability to do this, but I do not believe there are “extras” in there.
Thanks for the comments.
Jennifer Pashkin Scott
2:54 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Part One: I would like to comment as a parent of a Kindergarten student at CES. HOORAY for the curriculum leader who creates learning opportunities that keep the students interested in learning and engaged in their studies. Programs like “One Book – One School” which engage students, teachers AND parents in promoting positive literacy skills and get kids READING AT HOME are an enormous asset. Bringing programs into CES that help young people learn early math skills, pre-literacy skills, problem solving skills, and so much more, while keeping the teachers up to date on the latest prompts and tools they can use in over-populated classrooms is not a luxury. Stating that “studies of Kindergarten and First Grade are not that complicated” leads me to believe that you have not taught these grade levels or volunteered in these classrooms. I do not mean any offense; I am just trying to establish that I have seen exactly how hard it IS to teach this grade level. I don’t think it’s about the content – I think it’s more about the implementation. Teachers need tools and the curriculum leader gives them those tools.
Jennifer Pashkin Scott
2:56 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Part Two: Building a solid foundation of lifelong learning is a critical component to the curriculum at CES and frankly is a benefit to our community at large. The CES kids move up through the system and with their hard work, coupled with the work of the teachers and parents, make Brookfield Schools top-notch, nationally recognized, and help keep our property values higher than they might be otherwise. I know many people with young children here who say that they moved here BECAUSE of the school system, coupled with the quality of life Brookfield affords them (in comparison to many other parts of Fairfield County), and I applaud the BoE the school administration, the teachers and the staff, for their efforts in keeping our schools great. These are tough times. I get that. I also strongly believe that having the schools suffer and negatively impacting our children’s education is not the right answer for me and my family. Parents of current Brookfield School's students – I encourage you to visit http://brookfieldpeptalk.org/ I am NOT going to tell you how to vote on this budget. I just encourage you to understand it and learn how it impacts you and your family. If you have an opinion on it, let your elected officials know now.
Longtime Brookfield resident
3:25 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Jennifer- Please do not underestimate my involvement in the school system as I have been very intimate with the school system for many years and have more insight than you think. And while I agree all the programs you have listed are great for the kids but lets not lose FOCUS this is Kindergarten and First Grade - Important years YES but 100k for Curriculum leader? What did we do for years without this position ??? I am 100% behind our children trust me- in these tough times we need to look at all ways to save - Brookfield is a unique town that has its elementary school grades split- if you read my post it said why could we not combine Huckleberry leader with Center school leader - LIKE most towns that have a single school for K-4 - We have 2 curriculum leaders for K-4 so I am really not be-littling the position as much as you think just trying to look at this from a fiscally responsible view. We simply need to look at all ways to save
Jennifer Pashkin Scott
3:54 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I apologize for the underestimation – it’s hard to tell from an anonymous posting. I’m just a concerned parent who did actually move here for the schools and would hate to see that investment go unrealized. I do appreciate hearing that you are behind our children 100%, and I appreciate your clarification on your opinion of the curriculum leader role. I also sincerely appreciate that you are voicing your opinion, as there are so many who do not. Having attended the last two BoE meetings, and listening to their budget discussions in their entirety, I feel confident that this is a fiscally responsible budget. As it was stated so eloquently last night at the BoE meeting (and not by me) – there is always something to cut – now it’s a matter of cuts not impacting our kids.
Ryen
11:46 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
You are KIDDING me, right Jennifer? You REALLY think that people (such as myself and MANY others) do NOT think that Brookfield has good schools or that parents should want to educate their children in Brookfield??? You MUST be kidding me, right? You actually have yourself (and some of the extreme parents who do not know ANYTHING about education, budgets, or the state of our country) believing that a person such as myself does not value education for my children? That is a DELUSION perpetrated by people who actually are only concewrned about their own kids in the short-term and have no broader context to apply here.... This issue oof public education and public education spending is SO much more serious than a Curriculum Leader and a full-day kindergarten. Tell me, do more towns in Connecticut have full day or part day kidergartens Jennifer? Just interested in how broad your perspective and knowledge is on these issues, or if you only live inside the Brookfield "small pond"?
Longtime Brookfield resident
4:04 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Jennifer - I totally agree we need to look at cuts with little or no impact 100% - Unlike you I did not move here - I was BORN here and lived here all my life. No one cares more for our childrens education than I do. I just want to look at all options. If we need everything in the budget then we leave it in - I just want to vet the items thats all - So lets go back to my statement- Does Bethel, New Fairfield etc.. have 2 cirriculum leaders for K-4. We are a small town in unique position I am just looking at synergies and consolidations that will have ZERO impact on OUR children
Rob Gianazza
4:25 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
LBR, I think what you are looking at is why do we need so many highly compensated employees for the K-4 program. Years ago principals were responsible not only for their buildings but for their staff development as well. Special Education needs have changed that paradigm. The principal is a much more active participant in that process, taking away from their time to work with staff and curriculum. A Curriculum Specialist works directly with the staff, filling that role. You make an excellent argument, does Brookfield require two positions to fulfill this need? I had proposed a floating elementary assistent principal to fill some of these gaps. We simply need to accomplish our needs with less highly compensated staff. After all, that's why they are highly compensated in the first place.
Laura Orban
5:07 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I will have 2 children in the Brookfield school system in the fall. I've also attended some of the recent Board of Education meetings on the budget and read the documentation. I have seen just a small piece of the work that has gone into creating the current budget. The administration and Board of Education were extremely thorough. They went over line item by line item, more than once. They asked questions. They asked for different scenarios. They looked at multiple options. And as I said, I saw just a piece of the work that was done.
I don't say this to deter anyone from asking questions. On the contrary, I think we need more people involved, particularly parents. I make this point because I don't want other parents to read one Patch post (and the ensuing comments) and draw the inaccurate conclusion that the Board of Education and Administration didn't look at ways to be efficient and save money at every single step of the discussion. They absolutely did.
Parents, if you support this budget, as I do, you need to say so. You need to find out what's in it, what services will be lost if it's cut and how it will impact our children.
Steven DeVaux
12:21 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Laura,
Should the Board of Finance decide to keep the Board of Education budget funded at the current 2011-12 funding level, by Connecticut General Statue, only the Brookfield Board of Education can say how they will redeploy the funding they are being given and the reasons for their decision. The Board of Finance has absolutely (and shouldn't) have any say as to how the funds will be spent. Those questions have to remain in the arena of the Board of Education.
Ray DiStephan
5:42 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
One point of clarification, curriculum leaders are NOT administrators. They are paid according to the teachers' contract.
As I said before, they are ALL very busy getting busier. I will qualify that fact shortly.
brookfield parent
10:31 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
I have 3 children in Brookfield Schools. I moved here 7 years ago for the schools. Since then the 51 program at center school has been cut. That's a shame, it was a great experience. It is hard to know exactly what's the best decision. We all want the best for our kids. But times are really hard now for another increase. I agree it should be better looked over to find savings on many items mentioned above.
brookfield parent
10:32 pm on Thursday, January 19, 2012
Sorry I meant T1 program
Longtime Brookfield resident
8:34 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Ray - in regards to the Cirriculum leader at CES - Does this position actually teach a class? Are students assigned to her on an hourly basis ? Maybe I am confused but you can pay this position under a teachers contract but it looks more like a admin position. So this position performs no admin functions ?
Also what happens to any money not spent from prior year budget ? Is there a surplus at end of year or do we start the next year off at a defecit? Also has anyone ever tracked and analyzed monthly spend pattern ? Have we vetted out the old " Spend it or lose it " menatality at end of fiscal years - Not saying this is done at all just asking.
Longtime Brookfield resident
8:43 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Rob- SPOT ON exactly what I wanted to say 100% you are are the same page as I am. in response to Laura i would say this - I am not disagreeing that this budget may be BARE Bones and most of the FAT is gone - however natyral budget process progression is to look where we can CONSOLIDATE efforts to achieve more savings in this tough economic time. This is not something new and is SOP practice in corporate world. Not looking in anyway to damage our education. I think Ray's comments are perfect- We have HIGHLY educated , Professional staff memebers in place that are well compensated - Lets maximise this talent and get best bang for our dollars and put forth a budget the whole town can get behind. You can even look at this like a general mission statement - Our Goal it to provide our customer ( Our Children) with the highest quality product and services ( Education) by giving them the best possible tools and enviroment while increasing value to our Shareholders ( Tax Payers) . The area I asked for review would follow this - The REAL cost of 3 extra days of school that are generally non productive as everyone is ready for summer vacation, and why cant we consolidate some of our K-4 positions.
Rob Gianazza
9:09 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
LBR, thank you for your kind words. I am no longer a member of the BOE, but I can offer my opinion about those "extra" days. Why is 183 the magic number? Well the state requires 180 days. But in order to increase our available instructional classroom hours, Brookfield schedules 183 days. Many people are of the opinion that those last three days are "blow-off" days. Please consider this, wouldn't the summer vacation mentality just begin three days earlier in a 180 day school year? These days are used for a number of reasons, make-up days for missed exams, a celebration of what the class has experienced over the academic school year and lastly a cushion for excessive snow or emergency days. Many of the bargaining units are based on a 187 day work year. If we were to reduce classroom days, that would not result is a reduction in expenses (except perhaps fuel and electricity). The biggest expenses are staffing. They will still be paid, benefits will still be offered, so there's really no great savings, except perhaps a few dollars in transportation. Also, any funds remaining at the end of the fiscal year get returned to the Town of Brookfield. They are not carried forward, however the District will frequently purchase supplies that are required for the following school year. This gives the District a leg-up on the next fiscal year. Basically there is no spending spree on frivolous items, just the basic necessities.
Steven DeVaux
9:18 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Eliminate the paraprofessionals and hire competent certified professionals, you'll need less people. Do you know the education difference along between a paraprofessional and a state certified educator? There's a reason that people want state certified and highly educated personnel handling their kids.
Think about it. When you go to the doctor for an ailment, do you want the doctor or someone who is not recognized by the state to be a doctor? Same fee.
Rob Gianazza
9:27 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Steve, as a former BOE chairman, you should be very familiar with the role that paraprofessionals play in our school district. Paraprofessionals are never used in place of certified teachers. They assist in the classroom and serve to assist our many special needs students. Many have bachelors degrees and training in working with special needs students. They play an integral role in education.
Steven DeVaux
9:55 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
I have never supported the use of paraprofessionals in a childhood development environment and am on the record consistently as saying so. A child is much to precious to parents to be left to the hands of amateurs. With a ratio of 14.3 students to each teacher why is there a need for classroom assistants? Also, having bachelor degrees in other than developmental education is of no use. Lastly there are thousands of unemployed certified teachers out today who are eminiently qualified and need no taxpayer funded training in child development. Just advertise it and see all the applicants with the employment situation over the last five years. Brookfield would be better off getting the union decertified and moving towards highly qualified professional degreed in the job they are going to perform. At the very least the district shouldn't be collecting the paraprofessional union dues. That doesn't help education at all. Let the union collect what's owed them from their members directly.
Rob Gianazza
10:20 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Steve, as we are both former BOE members, this is a wonderful opportunity for us to share our thoughts and insights with the community. I disagree with your position of describing paraprofessionals as amateurs. Paraprofesionals are not a replacement for teachers, they assist at the direction of the classroom teacher. This is something that evolved out of room-moms. In many cases paraprofessionals work directly with students as part of their IEP. Frequently they are supporting a single special needs student. A lot has changed in the decade since you were on the BOE. The role of paraprofessional is still being defined and refined.
I'm not sure where you arrived at a 14.3 student ratio, but class sizes are no where near 14.3. Most are in the 19 to 23 range. Since a paraprofessional can be assigned to a single student, it is extremely unfair to include them in a head-count ratio of student to teacher. Are you aware that many paraprofessionals are certified teachers, working in that position because that is the position that is available? Paraprofessionals are paid less than half of the average teacher, have less generous benefits and are not tenured. Some paraprofessionals apply and are hired as teachers when positions become available.
Steven DeVaux
12:30 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Rob,
Please go to ProPublica for the student ratios. Brookfield's is:
http://projects.propublica.org/schools/search?lat=41.4660901&lng=-73.40623419999997
I see nothing wrong with "room-moms". My wife was one and i was proud of her for her volunteer efforts to help teachers deliver the highest possible quality of public education. "room-mems" are volunteers. Paraprofessionals are a union organization designed to maximize the best for their membership. After all that is the purpose of a union. That has not changed in many decades.
I don't believe it right, nor should it be the policy of the Brookfield Board of Education to hire certified professional licensed teachers and pay them less than the teachers bargaining unit but that's my opinion.
Rob Gianazza
3:08 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Thank you for the link Steve. Unfortunately this site provides data that is almost as trustworthy as a Michael Moore production. There is no reference as to how they arrive at that number, however I do know class sizes as they are reported to the public by the Assistant Superintendent Dr. Genie Slone. I will share with you that there are a great number of employees within the BEA, Brookfield Educators Association (aka Teachers Union) that do not have classroom assignments. These people include Speech Pathologists, Social Workers, Guidance Councillors, Special Ed teachers, Physical Therapists, Remedial Skills teachers, Librarians, etc. I think you can see where I'm going with this. So if indeed that 14.3 number is accurate, it most likely reflects the inclusion of all these people as well.
I cannot speak to the policy of the Brookfield Board of Education, but in my humble opinion if a position is offered, and the new employee is accepting of the terms, then how is it wrong to honor that contract? Individuals have their reasons for accepting positions and in a free nation such as ours, how can you possibly object that?
Longtime Brookfield resident
10:01 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Steve- how can you make a blanket statement like all PARA Professionals are incompetent - These staff members do provide a service tou our children at a VERY low cost - Can anyone from BOE post the avg para salary - My guess is less than 15k annual. These PARA's are not just people off the street but mostly people who are the threads of our community. I agree with Rob 100% AGAIN- Wow not sure i have ever said that so many times in a couple of days - These are edcuated people working very a very small pay that provide VALUE - The PARA's are more the solution than the problem
Ray DiStephan
11:14 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
$15K per Para is about right for most paras.
As to Administrators, we looked at this last year and what we found is that we are, by no means, an administator heavy district. The facts actually showed the opposite. Whether you looked at it per pupil, per building, per teacher, etc, we genrally have fewer administrators than most districts.
As to budget "surplus", I can tell you that there is generally no surplus over the past few years. We have come in at nearly the dollar amount budgeted. However, this discussion was raised last year and what was said was that if there was to be a line that was slightly over funded, it usually would need to be transferred to a line that was underfunded. Also, occasionally, there may be a small capital project scheduled for the following year. If the budget allowed, the district may do the job in the current year. What this does is effectively remove an expense for the coming year.
All of the expenses are reviewed every month by the BOE Business and Facilities sub-committee and their report and the financial reports are distributed to all BOE members each month. These are also public documents.
As I said, I am getting more details about the curriculum leaders, but I will reiterate that they are very busy and each doing a tremendous amount of work. But, yes.. they are on the teacher’s contract and not paid as administrators.
Steven DeVaux
11:26 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Longtime Brookfield Resident,
Please point out where I used the word incompetent.
You are correct that they provide "a" service - but so does the custodian. I didn't discuss cost as that - in my opinion - would be like saying I went to a "very low cost" doctor as opposed to a "top quality" doctor. Is that how people value their health? They why value the town's children that way? Let's FOI the credentials of each paraprofessional and then we can discuss it with all the facts. Can you imagine a dental hygenist doing a root canal instead of the dentist because it cost less? There are reasons for certifications and licenses and they are to assure quality performance that is monitored. Paraprofessionals have no credentialing in terms of the state. Having a degree in basketweaving, Shakesperian literature or industrial arts does not qualify one in the special requirements and process of a child with special needs. Living in the same community doesn't bestow the years of specialized training and examinations as well as the advanced degrees of a State of Connecticut Certified Teacher. The fact that the Board of Education got help "on the cheap" does nothing to assuage the concerns of parents who want - and deserve - only the very best for their children with special needs. Giving them the "cheap help" doesn't pass muster in my view.
Rob Gianazza
11:59 am on Friday, January 20, 2012
Steve, once again you are confusing two very distinctly different roles. Expressions like "cheap help", "on the cheap" and a degree in basket-weaving are demeaning and offensive to paraprofessionals and they deserve an apology. If you would like to know more about the specific training that some paraprofessionals go through (which certified teachers do not) to service some of our special needs children, please contact Mr. Charlie Manos, Director of Special Services. I cannot stress enough how misleading your characterization of paraprofessionals is to the community.
Longtime Brookfield resident
12:28 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Can we download a version of proposed budget ?
Ray DiStephan
12:44 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
There is an abundance of Budget info here: http://www.brookfield.k12.ct.us/subsite/dist/page/district-budget-1070
But the BOE adopted budget is being refined and finalized by the Administration as per the directions of the BOE. That report will be available shortly and is due to the First Selectman no later than the end of the day on 1-31.
Chris Delia
1:16 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Here is the link for the budget (http://www.brookfield.k12.ct.us/subsite/dist/page/district-budget-1070). In it you will see that while the rest of Brookfield are lucky to keep the salaries they have, the administration and the BOE are giving teachers over a 6 ½ % raise over the next three years (page 56). Page 58, over a 10 % raise for the curriculum teacher. If you continue to read you will see that in almost every single category, there are significant increases. Is this BOE really telling us that they could not find a way to reduce this budget? Please.
During the last election, every member of this board, Democrat and Liberal Republican alike joined a unified ticket and asked this town to vote for them because they can work well together. Well they are working well together and now we are paying for it.
David Propper
5:10 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Are you referring to Brookfield's Best Candidates? If so, it is not correct to call it a ticket. It is a bipartisan group of citizens who reviewed the full list of candidates and gave an endorse to those candidates that meet their objectives. The initiative started with citizens and not the candidates. There was no effort to make the candidates take any positions or make any commitments.
Ray DiStephan
1:34 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
That is not the link to the budget. That is a number of budget related informational items and the Superintendent’s proposed budget. While much will not be changed, the BOE proposed budget has not bee finalized yet. It is due on 1-31 as I stated. Incidentally, that is the same link that I provided above.
I find it ironic Chris, that you stood in front of the BOE and attacked some of the members for bringing political party into the discussion of the book issue. Yet, here you are doing the exact same thing.
Also, you have presented selective and incomplete information. The 10% increase in that line item is NOT for a single "curriculum teacher" and it states very clearly what it is for: "This line item reflects the salaries for the district’s 3.0 FTE curriculum resource teachers (one each for grades K-1, 2-4 and 5-8) which will increase
by a total of $4,004 or 1.7%. Additionally, the funds that are contractually required to pay for teacher degree changes, merit increases for union
administrators and anticipated sick payouts for retiring teachers, are included in this line item. No changes in the Personnel and Curriculum certified
teacher staffing level of 3.0 FTE are proposed."
These are negotiated and contractually agreed increases. We cannot lower them. We could cut them, but what impact will that have on students?
"A significant one" is the answer to that question
Chris Delia
2:03 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
I am not attacking anyone, I am just stating the facts. The document that I linked to is titled, “Brookfield Public Schools Superintendent’s Requested Budget”, sounds like a budget to me. I think it is sad that more than half this town knows how to reduce their professional and personal budgets and still get what needs to be done, done, yet year after year under your leadership, the BOE has not found a way to do the same. Let the folks read it themselves and decide if this is what they want.
Ray DiStephan
2:11 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
This is not the time or the place to debate my leadership and whether or not you attacked anyone, so I will leave that alone. None of that helps anyone with scrutinizing this budget. I am just surprised since you and I have always been able to communicate constructively 1-on-1.
However, once again, that is not "the budget" that you cited. It is the superintendent's proposed budget. The BOE made a number of changes to a number of items. Certainly the majority of the 900+ line items are not different, so I would agree that it is useful to look at that proposal. But keep in mind that some line items have changed.
Chris Delia
3:29 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Ray,
The bottom line is that the administration and the BOE does not seem to understand that you cannot raise the budget year after year. It does not matter if the 10% increase is for one teacher or three teachers; right now we are in an economy that simply cannot support that. No one (Or very few) people are getting raises; most people are just hanging on. You cannot tell me that as the head of the BOE, you cannot find a way to reduce the budget so that we don’t need the increase without affecting the education of our kids. As for the other issues I have, you are correct this is not the place. I will sit down with you anytime you want to discuss them.
Steven DeVaux
3:57 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
LBR,
Doubtful. You are referring to a budget by object by program by school correct? That is the only way to understand how it is anticipated being applied. Again they can "switch the menus once you order" as they did with the superintendents salary a couple of years back.
Also a schedule by teacher, grade, # of students served and salary and benefits also use to be provided I have them from the 1990's through 2003. After the change in business managers the schedule was no longer provided to the community. It is apparently now a state secret.
Steven DeVaux
4:24 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Keep raising those taxes Brookfield.
http://darien.patch.com/articles/ct-home-sales-worst-in-new-england-in-2011
Longtime Brookfield resident
4:25 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Steve - absolutely that is what I am looking for - something that would allow a deep dig and understand what we have - The era of just adding 3% to each line item is long gone in the corporate world - Each year now they are built from ground up - Examining each job despcription and job function to see where where we can eliminate redundancies.
As far as where you used incompetent it was implied with your statement "Eliminate the paraprofessionals and hire competent certified professionals" once you say replace with competency the implied is imcompetent.
Bottom line is we all want the best eductaion for our children and need to fit it within a budget that we can all afford without wasting hard earned funds. we live in a VERY diverse town where salaries range form 20k annual to million a year annual with most of us falling in between. Many have lost jobs and are struggling so we need to keep that in mind. I really do believe that with some MORE hard work and some ideas form OUR community we can achieve a ZERO increase budget without pain. I would really like to see MR Colleys savings reach bottom line one day.
Steven DeVaux
4:43 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
LBR,
Not quite. I simply didn't want any incompetent teachers hired. That's it. A misunderstanding. I'm sure paraprofessionals are competent at what they targeted their education for. That's not an issue with me at all. It's just that they did not study or become licensed and certified in childhood development or teaching. If they had, they have every right to demand with other professional teachers are earning. No qualms about that at all.
I believe that if the community tells the Board of Education to live with the same funds and staff as last year....and they'll have less enrollment...with a 0% teacher salary increase .... they could do so with ease. The Board of Finance just needs to tell them that.
Rob Gianazza
5:21 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
"they could do so with ease." Please share with us exactly where you would make these cuts. I know that Mr. DiStephan asked others for that input. But to make this perfectly clear, one bargaining unit out of six negotiated a zero percent increase. Heating costs, electrical costs, healthcare costs and all other costs are subject to increases. Plus the Board of Education asked to improve upon the existing curriculum and budgeted for that. Steve, I too support a lower increase than what is requested, but I would hardly call it easy. I can identify a quarter million dollars, can you?
I also object to your consistent reference to teachers as being incompetent if they are not certified professionals. The Brookfield BOE does not hire non-certified personnel as classroom teachers. Paraprofessionals are not and never have been considered teachers. They may be teaching assistants, but they are not classroom teachers. Wearing a white lab coat with a stethoscope around your neck doesn't make you a doctor, yet many healthcare professionals do. And what if a doctor chooses to accept a position as an orderly, does that entitle them to doctors pay?
Steven DeVaux
6:00 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Contract with Energy Education and save $100K a year for starters. A no-brainer that has been recommended for 10 years and rejected. The list of schools and their savings is available and they will come with a moneyback guarantee. Something Morganti did not as was evidenced by three football fields in one and the town stuck with an overage for the high school renovation.
Teachers have no proof of their credentials without certification and in public schools in Connecticut are not permitted to teachers.
Rob Gianazza
6:20 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Have you asked Mr. Colley about this? I believe he negotiated a better deal for the District. I can't follow the rest of your song, the notes and the lyrics don't seem to match. That different drummer you listen to is off-key....
Steven DeVaux
11:03 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Rob,
A better deal? I can assure you if you understood the propgram, there is no way on price alone any district could even begin to come to the saving they guarantee...and without buying a dime in equipment. And they have been successful in hundreds of districts. If Mr. Colley is incapable of doing due diligence on containing the energy costs of the Brookfield Board of Education, perhaps it's time for someone else to step in instead of simply handing the taxpayers the bill for his inabilities to contain costs.
Rob Gianazza
12:20 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Steve, I have seen Mr. Colley perform his due diligence. Have you contacted Mr. Colley directly about this concern? It will most likely be him who is explaining to you why this is not the best option for the Brookfield School District. He has a proven record of saving the District thousands of dollars during his tenure as Business Manager. Your libelous comment is deserving of an apology to Mr. Colley.
Steven DeVaux
12:32 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Rob,
It's the superintendent's job to hold Mr. Colley accountable. I can factually back up what I said which you are aware is the basis of liable. Perhaps our town's elected leaders can query him and the Energy Education people at the same time and see all the research he's done on them in the last 10 years it's been questioned as to why Brookfield doesn't participate in something that has a guarantee with no money up front for equipment.
Victor Katz
8:38 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
It is interesting how some folks can with ease talk about a no increase or a zero % budget. If the BOE were to adopt a budget without ANY changes whatsoever to the services provided to our kids and just continue as is, then the increase to the 2012/2013 budget would amount to 2.11% - this is a fact as this specific figure was determined as per the BOE request. Significant increases in diesel, oil, health insurance, etc are the major drivers of this budget aspect. Even with the recent savings realized from the teachers contract, there are still contractual increases from the remaining unions in our district. We all know this because we all are faced with the same increase when we stop at a local gas station or get a delivery from the local oil company or see the increase in our personal health insurance company, the list goes on. Why are we not demanding the same consideration from them? Don't they know that we, their customers, are going through very tough economic times? Well, the same applies to every school district in this country.
Victor Katz
8:54 pm on Friday, January 20, 2012
Now let's consider a zero budget. Essentially this means a guaranteed reduction in services, teachers, support staff, etc, etc...
This translates to a direct and a detrimental impact to the kids in Brookfield.
A complete reversal in the progress that has been made in the last decade in terms of quality of education. I am not sure exactly how the parents in this town would react to anyone suggesting something like that, but I would venture to say it would not be pleasant. So the BOE is asking for 0.75% more than the status quo in order to move the district forward and ensure our kids get the best education we can provide, while remaining cognizant of the economic climate. I would like to challenge anyone who is talking about a zero budget to show a concrete plan that can achieve that with a zero negative impact to our kids. Until then please stop suggesting what the BOE and the Administration can or can not understand.
Dr. Robin Appleby
8:11 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Many, many people in Brookfield believe that the ever rising taxes are forcing them from their homes. What do we say to them ?
Steven DeVaux
12:11 pm on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Robin,
What do you tell the over 3,000 senior citizen in town?
Steven DeVaux
10:55 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Dr. Appleby,
The elected Brookfield Board of Educatin is apparently not capable of executing the office to which they were elected. They can't figure out how to manage a budget that worked this year, next year. They claim they already locked in the increased costs years ago and people just need to pay it now. They "challenge" people to do their thinking for them as they are incapable of creatively dealing with a half decade of joblessness, frozen salaries and contraction despite a declining enrollment the entire time. Other district are closing schools and they refuse to consider closing Center School to lower the Board of Education operating costs and cafefully condensing, reorganizing and redeploying the assets the community has entrusted them with. Instead they ask for ideas then tell people they can't and why. Apologists for the Superintendents apparent inability to communicate with the towns finance office. Give them the same funds you did this year. Don't cut them down to the lower enrollement they have. That's a built in increase and they should be able to manage that. After all, isn't that what they ran for to be elected? To govern the schools as state, not town, officials? You owe them no answers or discussion. That is withing their domain. They tell you that all the time anyway when it suits their purpose. Let them come up with the plan on how they will or resign and let others do it who can. That's the way the system is supposed to work.
Victor Katz
11:17 am on Saturday, January 21, 2012
Hi Dr. Appleby.
I am not sure how to quantify "many people" at this point of time, however I can tell you that over 2800 kids will be affected with a zero budget. What do we say to them and their parents?
Longtime Brookfield resident
10:01 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
I agree with Dr Appleby, and how can someone quantify that ZERO increase will effect 2800 students - I find it hard to imagine that 2.8% can impact that many students. I am not saying it will be easy but we need to challenge our BOE to try. What we say to everyone is that we need to find the best answer for ALL - the ones that can afford , the ones that cant afford . Anyone associated with any budget process knows that there is always a way to find a way forward. We just need to find the way. I believe we have a solid BOE in place and they will find a creative way to help reduce for those who have not had any increases in pay in years in fact many have been decreased
Longtime Brookfield resident
10:15 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
The increase represents $380 per student - Impact ?
Victor Katz
10:56 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
LBR, I feel like I need to add a point of clarification here in terms of the Budget approval process. The BOE has been working on the Budget since late last calendar year. During this time the BOE has gone through various scenarios and scrutinized the budget down to the line item detail. At the BOE meeting last week the Budget was adopted and now it's up to the First Selectman, BOS and subsequently the Board of Finance to review it, make changes (if so inclined) and put it forth to a Town Meeting and lastly a Town Referendum vote. While the BOE is always seeking feedback from the community via all channels available (Patch is no exception), at this point it's out of the hands of the BOE so to speak. At this moment the only entities that can influence the actual Budget % are the BOS and the BOF.
Victor Katz
11:27 am on Sunday, January 22, 2012
As far as being able to quantify the impact of a ZERO budget on 2800 + students.
As I stated earlier, a maintenance budget alone translates into a 2.11% - never mind anything else. With a ZERO budget, the 2.11% is then gone which amounts close to $800,000, which is the amount required in order to move along AS IS. Again, this is driven by a double-digit increase in health insurance costs, fuel, oil, loss of state grants, etc - all things that we can relate to on a personal level. Such a significant loss of funding would absolutely mean loss of staff in some way shape or form. The impact is: increased class sizes, especially in lower grades, reduction of services, and so on. I hope you can see why I made that comment.
Longtime Brookfield resident
8:13 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Mr Katz- I agree with you I missed boat and am a little late to the party. I need to start my discussions earlier so yes this is my fault. As for your statement then I can live with the 2.11 % increase and move us a long and get creative for the remaining % - However the things you mention for the drivers of these expenses happen to EVERY household and like we have all stated they dont get a CHOICE on thier ZERO percent raises and have to keep thier houses a float wuth the same finances form years past - NO increase - How can we add more burden to these already underwater community memebers - do we hand them a lead weight or try to hand them a life preserver. Thats all. I still feel in my heart and soul that there is a way to remove more form this budget without MAJOR impact to our children.
Steven DeVaux
9:47 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Consider this,
More than 3,000 people getting social security in Brookfield got a 0% increase in the last few years. They re-prioritized and managed. On top of that, they got tax increases, something the Board of Education is not getting because it doesn't pay tax.
What's wrong with that picture? And there are many, many more who are working and either were laid off, got a salary freeze or got a salary cut. What of them?
Is the Board of Education holding the kids as economic hostages?
Concerned Brookfield Citizen
9:39 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Good question. Do you have any detailed suggestions or are you just going to point out the generalized issues? Regarding the impact on our children, what type of MINOR impacts would you claim are acceptable? Times are tough on the parents. That is true. But a child has only one chance at second grade. The lost educational opportunity can only be made up in the future at the expense of the time to teach other, new material.
Steven DeVaux
8:01 pm on Monday, January 23, 2012
CBC,
I think that the impacts being felt by our seniors citizens, our long term unemployed and our under employed should all be shared equally with all municipal functions, both town and education. I don't think the second grade is going for varsity letters and judging from the increased absentee rate, it doesn't appear that the administrators are successfully engaging kids.
Ray DiStephan
9:59 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
This has been a fairly busy thread since my last post. I will say that there have been some good ideas and good questions that I will continue to follow-up on. However, some of the personal attacks including accusations of being dishonest, incompetent, or simply uncaring for community members are not appreciated. I welcome the questions from people who I may ultimately disagree with, like LBR. But LBR engages in honest discourse and seems to be interested in what is best for all of Brookfield. I can respect that.
Unfortunately, others would rather focus on attacking the efforts of the volunteers that serve on the BOE and make this personal. I generally make a practice of not engaging these conversations, although I am human and get drawn in on occasion. However, I generally like to point out some facts that may come up in any comments:
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Ray DiStephan
10:01 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
FACT - Our budget increases for the past 4 years - through 2011-12 - have been:
2008-091.24%
2009-10-0.26%
2010-114.15%
2011-122.06%
Total 7.19%
Avg % - 1.80%
FACT - With a growing elementary enrollment, closing CES is absolutely not an option. Other districts - such as Monroe and Ridgefield - are closing schools due to plummeting enrollments. A projected drop of 1% is not a plummet nor does it warrant the closing of a school.
FACT - we have cut our staff by almost 34 FTE since 2004-05 in the BOE operating budget a reduction of 8.8%. At the same time, enrollment dropped by 9.2%. We have been continually cutting back where drops in enrollment warranted and allowed for such cuts.
Ray DiStephan
10:01 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
I made this point at our last meeting; cost per student is a bit of an illusion regarding enrollment reductions. For instance, we project about 30 less students next year. It would seem that you could multiply that by the cost per student dollar amount and come up with substantial savings. However, here is the real application: 30 students are spread over 13 grade levels (K-12). That is an average of 2-3 students per grade. So if we have about 9 or 10 sections per grade that is far less than one student per class.
So, let’s say you have 22 students in a given class. Now let’s apply the enrollment reduction of 1 student in that class (most classes will not see this one student reduction). Now the class is 21. Well you still pay the teacher and his/her benefits at the same level, that student’s bus still uses the fuel to run that route, and it still costs the same to heat that class room, etc. There has been virtually NO COST SAVINGS as a result of that lower enrollment.
Ray DiStephan
10:01 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Now if all 30 students were in one grade (they aren’t), then you can see a real cost savings through a teacher reduction and no longer needing to supply that classroom, etc. But this is not the case. I should also point out that the projected reduction in enrollment was off significantly. We ended up with considerably more students than was projected.
FACT - The BHS project WAS NOT managed by the BOE or the administration.....the appointed Municipal Building Committee was charged with this task.
I appreciate the economic climate and the struggles people are having in our community and country. I think we probably disagree on how we got here and what needs to be done to fix things. But that being said, the BOE tried to come up with a compromise to accommodate all. To some extent, I think the best compromise is one where nobody is completely satisfied with the results. We may have that here.
Ray DiStephan
10:02 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
As to a 0% increase, we are talking about a $1million dollar reduction in the proposed budget – the vast majority of which is to simply maintain what we currently have. The idea that there would not be significant teacher cuts and significant student impact is simply a pipe dream. Support a 0% if you want to, but don’t fool yourself into believing that the BOE will be able to figure out a way to make it work without significant impact. There will be and I don’t believe that is fair at all. Do I think increases are fair to people who are struggling? In terms of the school budget, if I didn’t believe it was as fair as it can be, I would not be supporting it.
Finally, I enjoy these posts and the discussion, but I will not always be able to respond to each quickly. The BOE wants your continued input and you can access all 7 BOE members through our email: brookfieldboe@gmail.com
Let’s keep the good discourse going.
Ray DiStephan
10:03 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
FACT - We have reduced electricity from a high of $788,084 to $570,000 in the 2011-12 budget, a reduction of over $218,000 - a 27.7% reduction, This is due to negotiating better rates through Constellation New Energy (for both the BOE and Town) and the completion of energy efficient lighting projects in all buildings and parking lots. With a rate reduction of 11% effective 6/1//2011, we anticipate further reductions in 2012-13.
Regarding Education Energy – The BOE and the administration have never received any communication from anyone regarding this firm. The link is below. While they say they will save 20-30% off our utility bills, it requires the hiring of an Energy Education Specialist to coordinate the program. However, we will investigate further. But we have still controlled our costs exceptionally well.
http://www.energyeducation.com/OurServices/tabid/58/Default.aspx
Longtime Brookfield resident
10:25 am on Monday, January 23, 2012
Ray- Thanks so much your points are well taken and show the work you and the board have put in. Many thanks for ll your efforts and especaily for your responses as you put in the extra work to make these posts. I think we all need to review your responses and if ANYONE has any suggestions for us ALL that may have been over looked or a new way of thinking please post. In the end I would love to see a reduction but will VOTE YES for our children in the end.